The TEI Council teleconference meeting took place on Friday
31 August at 12:00 UTC.
Arianna Ciula (AC), Syd Bauman
(SB), Tone Merete Bruvik (TMB), Lou Burnard (LB), James
Cummings (Minutes;JC), Dan O'Donnell (DO), Sebastian Rahtz
(SR), Laurent Romary (LR), Conal Tuohy (CT), and Christian
Wittern (Chair;CW).
Council members unable to participate: David Birnbaum (DB),
Matthew Driscoll (MD), Dot Porter (DP), and John Walsh (JW).
Open action items
CW reviewed the action items from the previous minutes.
LB reports that SB seems to have done this already LB reports that he has not yet done this, that he
started but got distracted.
Integrate list of workgroups and
members into Guidelines. 2007-09-07SB reported that this had been done. Discussion of rendition was delayed in case JW
joined later. LB commented that the action had been
approved at the previous meeting but had
not yet been completed.
Integrate revised rendition
recommendations into Guidelines.
2007-09-14 CT reported on the facsimile work, and that the
earlier example had been abandoned in favour of new ones
LB had produced. This action had been completed and CT and LB
reported on new draft. SR's example was discussed, but
LB and CT disagree about the nature of what a
<surface> is and whether it should be
renamed. SB and AC summarised their understanding of the
relationship between physical object, and the
corresponding facsimile elements. There was some
discussion on the problems encountered if
<surface> refers to the physical object,
and CT was tasked with proposing changes with examples
to the council list by 2007-09-14. SR confirmed that
Council was satisfied with the rest of the proposal and
especially its indirection in linking.
Produce workable examples and
proposals for change to facsimile markup (with regard
to the meaning of surface and its children).
2007-09-14DO arrived at this point.SB and TMB reported that this action item was almost
completed, but needed a bit more work.
Revise NH chapter.
2007-09-07 LB and SB reported that they believed this has
already been done; SPQR was currently reviewing the chapter. LB has not yet received minutes of the ISO meeting.
LR reported that they wanted to reintroduce 3 or 4
elements which had been in TEI P4 but which had since
been removed in TEI P5. LB is happy to make the changes
as soon as we are notified about them. Council agreed
that this is a special case which should change in order
to keep in step with the ISO work.
Report back to council on any
changes to FSD/FS and if necessary rationalise the TEI
version. 2007-09-14 DO reported that this had been completed, but no
ODD produced. DO summarised some of the issues but
promised to produce an ODD by 2007-09-07. LB reminded DO
that work had been done on this chapter in the meantime
and to make sure that the latest version was used.
Produce an ODD for
add/del/supplied/etc. proposals with regard to latest
modifications of PH/CO chapters. Reporting to Council
list. 2007-09-07 This item is moved forward until after DO produces
his ODD.
Comment on revised add/del/supplied
proposals on Council mailing list.
2007-09-14 This item is moved forward until council comments
on DO's ODD.
Integrate any agreed
add/del/supplied revisions (after Council input) to
the Guidelines. 2007-09-20JC reported that this action had been completed.JC reported that this ongoing item was in hand and a
lot of work was being done behind the scenes. SR whetted
Council's appetite by mentioning that navigation had
been completely revised in the last couple days.
This item is not due yet and is in progress.
All issues should be resolved
and/or reported to Sebastian and/or Council.
2007-09-07 Discussion at this point was diverted into
what to do about specGrpRef and similar elements and
their rendition in the Guidelines. Many opinions were
expressed, but JC volunteered to post an initial
summary of his perception of the problem to the
Council list to kick-start discussion. It was agreed
in any case that the Editors should remove the prose
leading up to such elements and that if this was to be
added it should be done in the processing.
Post a message summarising his
objections to the way <specGrp> and
<specGrpRef> elements are handled to
Council list. 2007-09-01
Discuss what should be done about
<specGrp> and
<specGrpRef> elements.
2007-09-07
Remove all leading prose before
<specGrp> and
<specGrpRef> elements.
2007-09-14
Modify XSLT in response to Council
decisions concerning <specGrp> and
<specGrpRef> elements and/or Council.
2007-09-14DO summarised his work on this, but worried it
might significantly break things. He promises to
produce a revised proposal and ODD by 2007-09-14, and
post to Council list.
Produce revised proposal/ODD
about what to do with app/rdg issues and post to
Council list. 2007-09-14 This item is moved forward.
Comment on revised app/rdg draft
on Council mailing list. 2007-09-21This item is moved forward.
Integrate revisions to app/rdg
(after Council input) to the Guidelines.
2007-09-28 LB reports that this is not been done yet, but he
will do so soon and the changes are straightforward.
Integrate changes necessary for a
working implementation for modelling of manuscript
stemmata, as proposed on council list.
2007-09-07LB reports that this has been done. This action is ongoing and is discussed in more
detail in the following section.
Review chapters and correct
mistakes as per
http://tei.oucs.ox.ac.uk/trac/TEIP5/wiki/Review
2007-09-07This is an ongoing item.
Add new significant technical
revisions to trac for P5 1.1 to keep track of
these ideas as they occur to Council during in P5 1.0
revisions.
http://tei.oucs.ox.ac.uk/trac/TEIP5/milestone/P5%201.1.
Ongoing
Chapter Triage
CW asked each Council member present to report on how their
chapter reviews were going. In general these are well in
hand. Various Council members raised a number of issues.
Who # TitleCommentsAC15Critical ApparatusDone AC9Manuscript DescriptionReview ongoing CW2 The TEI Header DoneCW20 Representation of non-standard characters and
glyphsSome revision needed; Review ongoingCT14 Transcription of Primary Sources Review ongoing, will reread LB's new
changesDO1 The TEI infrastructure DoneDan13 Certainty and ResponsibilityDone, concerns included discussion on values for
@cert DB16 Names, Dates, People, and PlacesNot presentDB18 Tables, Formulae, and GraphicsNot presentDP3 Elements Available in All TEI DocumentsNot presentJC4 Default Text Structure Review ongoingJC7 Transcriptions of Speech Done, only minor changes JW10 Linking, Segmentation, and AlignmentNot presentJW11 Simple Analytic MechanismsNot presentLR12 Feature Structures Review ongoingLR21 Feature System Declaration Review ongoingLR23 Using The TEI (IM, CF, MD, DT) Done, message posted to Council list expressing
some concerns about what it means to be a 'clean'
modificationLR22 Documentation Elements Review ongoingMD17 Graphs, Networks, and Trees Not presentMD19 Language Corpora Not present SR 23 Using the TEI (NH) Awaiting revised version SR8 Dictionaries Review ongoingTMB5 Verse Done Tone6 Performance Texts Done
Some actions arose during these discussions:
Check Guidelines prose and examples for
namespaces which are not TEI, a recognised schema, or
www.example.com (for example, www.hatstand.org).
2007-09-14
Expand explanatory prose in USE
concerning which elements are mandatory and how a user can
know this. 2007-09-14
Consider whether
<classes> should have a mode attribute.
2007-09-14
Post to Council list a call for examples
meeting particular requirements. 2007-09-21
Next Meeting
The next teleconference was not scheduled. CW will put
up a meetomatic survey to determine the best date. It will,
however be at 12pm noon UTC. This will be: 06:00 MDT in
Calgary, 07:00 CDT in Chicago, 08:00 EDT in New
York, 13:00 BST in London, 14:00 CEST in
Paris, 21:00 JST in Kyoto, and Wed 18 July, 00:00
NZST in Wellington.
CW to set date for next meeting using
meetomatic, and announce. 2007-09-07