TEI Council Meeting 7 December 2009
Contents
- Brett Barney (BB)
- Gabriel Bodard (GB)
- Peter Boot (PB)
- Lou Burnard (LB)
- James Cummings (JC)
- Matthew Driscoll (MD)
- Kevin Hawkins (KH)
- Martin Holmes (MH)
- Julianne Nyhan (JN)
- Daniel O'Donnell (DoD)
- Elena Pierazzo (EP)
- Dot Porter (DP)
- Sebastian Rahtz (SR) - minutes
- Laurent Romary (LR) - chair
- Paul Schaffner (PS)
- David Sewell (DS)
Introduction
Teleconference started at 1600 CET after a fair amount of to-ing and fro-ing with the Cisco Webex system being trialled at Oxford. Not a universally-admired setup :-}
LR welcomed new council members as well as ones staying and those leaving.
PB updated the meeting on the Getting Started document; as he will leave the Council shortly, he suggested that he do a final review the current draft and then hand it over to someone else. LB suggested JN might like to merge this with work on the TEI education journal. LR asked whether each topic in GS might be suitable for separate articles in TEI-EJ; JN agreed that they might (pending the agreement of her co-Editor also).
The meeting was suspended at 16.18 due to impossible amounts of interference, with a request to reconvene at 16.30.
The meeting reconvened 16.32 via hispeed-conferencing as in previous meetings. The vast howlings and noises as if of Chesil Beach in a storm subsided, except for people who appeared to amuse themselves during the boring bits by moving furniture or performing motorcycle maintenance.
It seemed to be generally accepted that using the GS articles in TEI-EJ was probably the right way forward, but needed discussion.
Discussion of outstanding feature requests
In the record, the initial in [XX] indicates the council member first speaking to the ticket. For full details of the request, see the relevant ticket.
Bibliography related
- 2881416
- add meeting to model.respLike [DS]: agreed to be non-controversial. Go GREEN
- 2714682
- permit <biblScope> as child or as sibling of imprint [KH]: more controversial. Eventually agreed that KH, LR and LB would clear this up. Go GREEN-ish.
- 2798963
-
add @role to author [MH]: It was argued that the
concept of author types does exist (eg composer or lyricist for a
musical, coder or designer for a computer programmer). LB
counter-argued that
<author>
is deliberately specialist, and we
have other ways of showing contributions; noted that
<respStmt>
is a general-purpose element for any intellectual contributions. In
the end, no-one actually objected to @role on
<author>
, by
making it a member of att.naming. Go GREEN. For the longer-term,
Action 2: KH agreed to create a feature request analyzing the relationship between <author> , <editor> , and <respStmt> .
- 2812634
- @docStatus on <edition> [JC]: why isn't it in <resptStmt> , it was asked? DoD wondered whether @xxStatus might not be wanted all over the shop; and is @status the same as @type or not? Sufficient confusion to put this decision off. Stay AMBER.
- 2728068
- suggested values for <relatedItem@type> [PS]. OK. Go GREEN.
- 2728061
- Add @target to relatedItem [LB]: are content and @target combining, or mutually exclusive? Generally agreed that the latter is what we want — presence of @target means that the content must be empty. Go GREEN.
- 2493417
-
<idno>
coverage [JN]: the issue not seem to
have got any simpler since last discussed at the F2F in Lyon. It needs a larger
discussion around identifying authors. Action 3: LR and JN agreed to take this away and beat it around some more.
Certainty/target/match issue
- 2862151; 2877940
-
Revisit use of @target;
Allow certainty etc in empty elements: the discussion was
rehearsed again as to whether we needed both @match and @target (ie
can we just use @target and XPointer), and whether @match should be
anchored at the document root or the current context. No-one really
seemed able to remember why we set the context to be the document
root; possibly a misunderstanding of XPath (cf long discussion on
TEI-L with Wendell Piez etc). LR asked whether
anyone had tried to implement the current setup (no answers; JC
admitted, however, he knew how to evaluate arbitrary XPath in XSLT 2.0
using the saxon:evaluate() extension function; see
http://blogs.oucs.ox.ac.uk/jamesc/2009/06/05/evaluate-a-string-as-an-xpath/
). GB and
SR pointed out that assuming the current context gives users a
valuable new facility of pointing at ‘here’. Vague agreement.
Action 4: LB to discuss with GB and SR, check that changing the default context of @match would definitely work.Go GREEN if agreed.
Manuscript/transcription-related
- 2900430
-
datatype of @scribe and @script [EP]: agreement
that URI pointing to a script record would be useful; might need a
<scriptNote>
in the header (or the existing
<taxonomy>
). Suggested that new pointing attributes @scriptRef
and @scribeRef should be added, to avoid breaking existing
documents. No objections. Action 5: EP and MD to provide examples.Go GREEN.
- 2907038
- permit collections to nest/repeat within msIdentifier [EP]: controversial, drawing in of breath by some. Others like the idea of nesting. Go GREEN-ish. LB needs examples.
Next meeting
- 2811239: new element 'object' [*DP]
- 2811234: add @ref to 'material' [*DP]
- 2724997: Cater for audio/video facsimile
